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Residents Opposed to Police Layoffs to Make Stand at Chesterfield Meeting

Critical of the plan to lay off officers, some Chesterfield Township residents are hoping to be heard at the Tuesday night board meeting.

 

A call for residents to vocalize their opposition to police layoffs in Chesterfield Township circulated this weekend on social media.

The local effort, dubbed COPS for Citizens Opposed to Police Streamlining in Chesterfield Township, encourages residents to attend the Tuesday night Board of Trustees meeting.

"Enough of this has been done already," it states. "Now is the time for your voices to be heard. Citizens of Chesterfield Township need to rally behind those that have sworn to serve and protect us.

"Your elected officials are blaming the layoffs, of up to 14 employees, of the Chesterfield Township Police Department on the failing of the proposed millage held in November."

It disagrees with Supervisor Michael Lovelock's stance that conducting layoffs at this time is good government when new businesses, such as Menards, are generating tax revenue. Lovelock said, although the department is funded through 2013, the layoffs are necessary so the force isn't in poor financial shape at the end of the year. He also said he will continue to support the department so it doesn't disband in favor of a Macomb County Sheriff's Office contract.

Newly elected Trustee David Joseph responded on the COPS-circulated material on Facebook in part that the layoff plan is "the product of the Chief (Bruce Smith) and Supervisor. It did not include ANY input or direction from the new Board members and I do not endorse it.

"I hope there is a massive outpouring of resident participation on Tuesday. Our citizens and officers deserve better than this and those responsible need to hear how unacceptable it is!" Joseph wrote.

Joseph recently suggested an outside review of police finances that ultimately was rejected by a board majority.

Smith, who strongly pushed for the tax-increase proposal to fund the department, has not responded to repeated requests for comment. He previously said he hoped to put the matter back on the ballot, but with a sunset provision.

There are no scheduled items pertaining to the police layoffs on the board meeting's agenda, but there's time allotted each session for public comments. Late last week, Lovelock said he had knowledge of plans to discuss the police department during the meeting.

The meeting is scheduled for 7 p.m. Tuesday in Municipal Offices, which are closed Monday due to the holiday.

Tell us in the comments' section below what you think about this issue.

Related Topics: Board of Trustees, Chesterfield Township police, Layoffs, and Tax Increase

Hester V. Regan

8:14 am on Monday, February 18, 2013

I am a senior so I do not drive after dark any more. HOWEVER, I want to let you know that I am opposed to any lay offs of Chesterfield Police Officers.
This is strictly a scare tactic by some elected officials.
David Joseph, please know that I am with all of you on Tuesday night and I stand for a strong Chesterfield Police Department. Hester V. Regan

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Hester V. Regan

8:14 am on Monday, February 18, 2013

Laying off Police officers is wrong. Chesterfield is not so broke that we have to do this. It is a political ploy by the supervisor to get a tax increase. I vote HIM to be laid off not our good Police Officers.

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Lee Prime

10:55 am on Monday, February 18, 2013

I can't believe Mr. Joseph is trying to play advocate to the Police Department and innocent in this debacle. What he is not saying is that he and the Clerk have already contacted the Sheriff's Department to contract with them. HE said he wouldn't support another millage and that there had to be cuts made. WHERE did he think the cuts would be made???? Please, don't insult everyone by acting innocent now. Has anyone paid attention to what HAS been done to cut costs at the Police Department to no avail?? Common sense tells you staff is the last resort not the first. Go to the Township like I did and get a copy of the paperwork that tells you how much money is coming in and how much is going out. It is great Menards has built in the township but one store is not going to pay enough taxes to fix the problem. Let's face it. When the Police Department asked for our help we told them no so quit acting like this is such a surprise. Ms. Hester says "Chesterfield is not so broke that we have to do this". Is that what we want? To live in a place that is broke and has no services available to us?? Or maybe, just maybe, that is the goal. Then the county could take over all the services and we all lose ANY say in what happens to our community. THINK PEOPLE!!! Have any of you watched the board meetings??

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Concerned Citizen

5:05 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013

Well said Lee Prime. That about covers it.

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Lisa

4:22 pm on Wednesday, February 20, 2013

Lee Prime and Concerned citizen
Totally agree with everything that you stated.While Mr. Joseph pretends to be our police advocate, he is just just a fence sitter. He already stated what he stands for . Nothing ! Lots of words going around in a circle .He once stated that " We might have to look to outside resources" .What exactly does that mean ? Macomb County Sheriffs ? I do respect all Policing agencies, but we have our own that take care of us in our community. Now we need to make sure to take care that they stay here.What happens next ,first police force then fire ,then what next ? How about the Board? Can we cut any fat out of there? Really need to look at ALL alternatives out there . I do agree with him there. We need to be creative in our solving this matter. The turnout last night showed how important our police are to us.

Maximus Max

10:55 am on Monday, February 18, 2013

First and foremost the budget should be laid bare for all to see. What are the deciding factors at play here? Are legacy costs sustainable? Whats the status of our fleet? What are the office expenses? Equipment requirements? NONE of this is know to the taxpayer, who is only asked time and time and time again to blindly support this. Sadly, many do just that...

You want/need more revenue? Make your specific case to your employers. Hopefully the days of blindly supporting this constant expansion of government that has our entire nation trillions of dollars in debt is coming to a close. The sooner the better.

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Maximus Max

5:05 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013

And of course we should all be told how much the *last* chief(s) cost us all when Jim Ellis was picking them...

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Concerned Citizen

8:15 am on Tuesday, February 19, 2013

Jim Ellis hired this Police Chief who put the police department back to respectability. By the way, if you want to see the budget, you only have to go to the township office and ask for a copy. If you watched the meetings, you would know that they have been making cuts for the last several years and when an officer retires, they are not being replaced. If you lose 2,000,000 in revenue and there is no millage to handle the loss, you lose officers. It is just a shame that people vote for things like the zoo, Smart Bus, and the DIA, but do not want to pay for one of the most important assets in our community. If you were paying attention before the millage was voted on, the police department had study sessions and mailed out literature explaining everything. Unfortunately, since it did not have an end date, it lost. Hopefully, the board will consider putting it back on the ballot with an end date so the people know that it is not forever, only until housing comes back.

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Concerned Citizen

8:15 am on Tuesday, February 19, 2013

Jim Ellis hired Chief Smith to replace the old chief. Chief Smith has brought respectability back to the police department. By the way, if you want to see the police budget all you have to do is go to the township and ask for a copy. Maximus Max, you must not have attended the budget meetings that are held every year at a public meeting to discuss the cost of running a police department. Maybe it is time you attended one.

citizen

8:15 am on Tuesday, February 19, 2013

Wipe out the whole department and contract the sheriffs dept. Sick of seeing the cop on my blocks car sitting running for hours in his driveway.

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Vince Finazzo

9:39 am on Tuesday, February 19, 2013

It is my belief that sometime in 2013 the citizens will once again have an opportunity to vote on a Police Department millage. What baffles me is why the citizens voted the Police Department millage down yet voted in favor to renew the Fire Department’s Equipment Fund. A fund that was already overtaxed and despite the department purchasing more new trucks over the last several years than several other area departments all combined, it still enjoyed a $6,000,000.00 surplus. The only reason I can think of is that the citizens wanted to see a date on the millage that gave them an opportunity to revisit the tax at a later date, aka a “sunset clause”. With that being said I think you’ll see an expiration date on any new proposal that will come before us. I also think that it’s time to reinstate the “Citizens Advisory Board”, (PFAB) “similar” in fashion to what we used to have. It’s always good to have checks and balances, it’s very possible this voting down of the Police millage could have been averted in the first place.
Mr. Prime, I think that you are way off base with your statement regarding Dave Joseph and if I were you I’d check my facts before you spoke. I have an idea…why not speak directly to Mr. Joseph and see what his position is. I did have conversation with Mr. Joseph regarding this subject. He is not in favor of contracting out to the Sherriff’s Department and he has said that he would support a Police Department millage.

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Concerned Citizen

1:11 pm on Tuesday, February 19, 2013

The PFAB Board would apply to new police and fire departments, not ones that are established. No other city or township has one. That is why they dissolved it several years ago. It is not up to citizens to oversee our police department, that is why we have a police chief and a township board. This is just another layer of government that is not needed. Using the millage failing as a reason to bring them back is just ridiculous. Too many chiefs is not the answer.

As for David Joseph, watch all of the meetings and then say he is for a millage. He has 90 days in office and is not experienced enough to have all the answers even if he thinks he does. He questions the police departments' credability when the millage fails and they don't make cuts, and now that they are, he is going the other way. Time for him to pick one side of the issue or the other. His good friend (his words) Cindy Berry is for the Sheriff's and he always votes the way Ms. Berry does.

Finally, it sounds like you have major issues against the Chesterfield Township Fire Department.

kidcat24

1:11 pm on Tuesday, February 19, 2013

Concerned Citizen, I voted yes on all of it. The zoo, Smart Bus, DIA, Fire, and Police. Can't blame me. All that and living on 1950 wages.

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kidcat24

7:09 am on Friday, February 22, 2013

How exactly am I the problem when I support services?

BlogNog

2:17 pm on Tuesday, February 19, 2013

All surrounding communities are patrolled by the Macomb County Sheriff because they figured out that it works just fine.

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Concerned Citizen

10:25 pm on Tuesday, February 19, 2013

If it worked just fine then there would be no police departments in any city or township. You get less for less money. If you think you will receive the same services for less money, you are mistaken. If the Sheriff's Department wants to raise their fees, they just do it. You do not have any input.

scott

2:17 pm on Tuesday, February 19, 2013

People are taxed to the hilt!!!! With all the new restaurants and buisnesses, housing etc that erupted over the last ten years, why is chesterfieild broke??It has become a cesspool for lowimcome and overridden with amoral transients and city escapees living on government assistance.

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Concerned Citizen

10:25 pm on Tuesday, February 19, 2013

Tax bills are lower now than there were a few years ago. The only increases have been for the DIA, Smart Bus renewal, the Zoo, and the Veterans, unless you live in Anchor Bay Schools, then the pool millage is added too. These were taxes all voted on and passed by voters. Still your taxes are lower than they were a few years ago. Look at your tax bills and compare them. If people were paying the same amount they did years ago (or more as you suggest), the police department would not be in trouble.

kidcat24

10:25 pm on Tuesday, February 19, 2013

Wall Street Stole Cities Bond Money! That's Why We're Broke!

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Laura R.

10:25 pm on Tuesday, February 19, 2013

Anybody who thinks the sheriff's department will provide the same service as Chesterfield, your crazy! First of all you get what you pay for. Second after their initial low ball estimate to get you in the door, the real price comes after your police department is dissolved and you are stuck with it because there are no other options! Plus look at Sheriff Wickersham's budget. Last time I checked he was millions in the red. He can't figure out his current situation!

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Shawn

10:25 pm on Tuesday, February 19, 2013

Guess thats what is bugging me Scott. The last time a millage past for the police Chesterfield did not have much in regards to large business like it does today. Waterside Park, WalMart, Motels, Restaraunts all opened after. Currently there are 56 homes under construction and Menards is opening with Olive Garden, and another large chain motel to break ground this fall. The easiest thing to blame is the economy or is it just lack of interest from board members? Not sure how the employees of these departments can keep an upper chin throughout all of this mess. For god's sake look at how New Baltimore's police and fire are treated by its citizens and board. They stand behind them all the way.

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Jane Goodwill

8:58 am on Wednesday, February 20, 2013

All of those businesses require more police work, not less.
The near total collaspe of our economy caused housing values to fall every year which dropped everyones property taxes...you all paid less to everything on your tax bill...less money coming in squeezes all departments.
The Tea's have come into the township to turn it into what they see as the answer to all problems...less taxes. That doesn't work in the real world. If you want to live in a safe place where an officer will respond quickly to your call, you have to pay them and have enough of them to cover the township.
Obviously, many have not bothered to pay attention to what has occured to the fund balances of any of the departments, especially police. Their problem was not caused by anything other than reduced revenue from falling property tax value.
This isn't rocket science, it is all on paper that anyone at any time can obtain from the township and read. It has been talked about, studied and action must be taken.
I see Monday morning quarterbacks with little real knowledge about the issue, they just think all government is corrupt and taxes should be abolished..Tea Party!!!

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Concerned Citizen

9:48 am on Wednesday, February 20, 2013

Thank you! Another voice of reason.

BlogNog

3:20 pm on Wednesday, February 20, 2013

Citizen, you say Tax bills are lower now than there were a few years ago but everything else has gone thru ther roof. Every politician from here to DC has his hand in my wallet. Most of us cant afford another increase IN ANYTHING!! The sheriff can do it just as well for way less.

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Concerned Citizen

4:22 pm on Wednesday, February 20, 2013

Macomb Township has 80,000 plus residents and only 21 sheriffs. We have 43,000 residents and 43 officers. The national average is 1 officer per 1,000 residents. If the sheriffs were so great, we would not have any police departments. Every city and township would use them.

Yes, Snyder is in your wallet as well as every middle class person. Police are vital to any community. We need proper coverage and with the SMART bus, we have more crime now than we used to. We need our officers. A millage is going to be the only way to keep our police. When the dust settles, the new board members will see that Plante & Moran is correct and there is no way to make up the 1.9 millions without either layoffs and/or a millage.

Lisa

5:05 pm on Wednesday, February 20, 2013

somebody does their homework good job concerned citizen .I agree 100 percent maybe are Board needs
to do their homework as well

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Pavel Bure

10:16 am on Thursday, February 21, 2013

Concerned Citizen, you also forgot to mention that the Sheriffs department raised the rate of service for Macomb Township 2 yrs before the agreed upon contract was set to expire. The Macomb Township voters had no choice in this matter it's either agree to the rate increase or in 2014 lose police service.

Concerned Citizen

1:12 pm on Thursday, February 21, 2013

Thank you Pavel Bure, I was not aware of that. I hope people reading this blog take that into consideration when they think the Sheriff's Department is the answer.

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Maximus Max

8:33 am on Friday, February 22, 2013

This is our National, State and Local government's problem. The only answer each and every one of them have to our spending problems is never to cut expenses, but always to raise revenue. It is simply unsustainable.

"Most upsetting about the report is not that America is running a deficit with no serious discussion of how to cut down on spending, it’s the candid revelation that even with a balanced budget, the astonishing amount of debt America has means that we must run consist surpluses to pay even pay off the interest on the loans. And with America having accrued so much debt so quickly, it is likely that our economic model will be seen as unstable by potential lenders, so borrowing money to be able to make the payments on the interest on our debt will likely be out of the question in the near future."

http://tpnn.com/goa-obamas-economic-policy-not-sustainable/

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kidcat24

9:03 am on Friday, February 22, 2013

How many government jobs have been cut?

Maximus Max

10:29 am on Friday, February 22, 2013

Our budget is not balanced = not enough have been cut. It's pretty simple.

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Tom L

2:38 pm on Friday, February 22, 2013

Oak Park could not wait to get rid of the Chief so of course we hire him. Plus his employees did not like him and that speaks volumes. The sheriff department is a terrible idea when I lived in Harrison Township they had 1 car on most nights but of course Hackel at the time promised the world if taxpayers would just open their check books . Keep our local police. Also when I lived in Detroit and had to wait 2 hours plus for a police officer because there was not enough.... Do I need to say anymore why don't you move just look at Detroit and last time I checked crime population business were all on the rise in chesterfield not a good time to cut police.

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