Individuals already have the right to bargain and unionize. State of Michigan licensing regulations already require caregivers to be cleared. I believe this Proposal comes from the SEIU and is an attempt to give an advantage unionized agencies not protect anyone.

While representation can have value, this proposal does little more than place in the Constitution the right for SEIU to receive dues, while providing little of value. The caregivers need that money more than the Union does.;

Please vote NO on ballot proposals 2-6. All of those ballot proposals would put the language in our STATE CONSTITUTION. That is NOT a good idea.

The giant issue that isn't being discussed for any of the ballot issues is the fact that issues 2 thru 6 ALL REQUIRE our state constitution to be opened up, no mention of the prolonged amount of time and EXPENSE this would cost the tax payers. But most of all .... who in their right mind would want a state constitution opened up in this era of extreme partisan divide? Personally ... I voting YES on # 1 and NO on all others. Yes... the previous comments are correct that proposal 4 was created quite illegally by the previous governor & the SEIU in a scheme that siphons off precious aid dollars from disabled people. Check out Michigan CapCon for details.

Another pro-union ploy to take away money from small business people or workers
to get dues.

CPMC states that the federal Home Help Program is already in existence to allow seniors and disabled people to receive care at home instead of at a nursing facility. Most seniors in the program use family members to provide the services.

If prop 4 passes senior/disabled won't be able to hire family.

I couldn't care less what the issues are. If our legislature has failed to represent us in the lawmaking process, then we will elect someone else. That power is already protected by the ballot.

Opening up the constitution to deal with tactical issues like this is a fool's errand.

I will be voting no on every single one. And voting against EVERY incumbent on the ballot until they chose to listen. As for the Grosse Pointe redistricting, I will be playing spoiler until I feel represented.

The Grosse Pointes have never really been represented as they were lumped in with a larger section of Detroit.

I'd hate to pay union dues to take care of my mother. Thanks alot Granholm......

Working in the senior health home care business, this is nothing but a scam to skim money! There is not one benefit to anyone (except the skimmer) in this proposal. Their ads tug at your heart--poor old people better have caregivers with background checks (ours all have them annually--it is part of our service!)!!! Have you looked at the cost of health care at home (or esp assisted living facilities?)? It is almost unaffordable now...just wait if this passes...! VOTE NO ON 4!!!!!!!

This is about putting into the constitution that the Service Employees International Union (SEIU) can continue to collect forced union dues on home based health care "workers". If Mom and Dad are caring for a severely handicapped child or parent, and receive a medicaid payment for that care, the SEIU gets money deducted from the payment to pay union dues, fees and political money. They have already collected $ 32 million before the legislature passed a bill to stop it. They have tied up the law with legal action while they petitioned to put on the ballot the continuation o their dues skim scam. NO will stop this scam!

The ONLY people who pay union dues are those workers who choose to do so. It comes out of their paychecks. It does not raise the price of home health care services one penny. No taxpayer pays these dues even indirectly. And only workers who want a union and choose to be reperesented by a union (in an election which is usually greatly influenced by employer intimidation) pay dues. By the way, these dues pay for the union's services in representing these workers in collective bargaining, grievances and contract administration (hardly a "scam to skim money"). The union has as obligation to fairly represent all workers in the bargaining unit, including those who choose not to belong to the union.

Mark you do not know what you are saying or are on something if you think people can option out of paying dues. When we pass a right to work law they will have the right. Now they are slaves to union bosses living high off the hog supporting Obama, the occupy and other socialist movements. In this case there was apparently a mailing asking if they wanted to join. Very few responded as they did not want one, thinking that was the end of it. The state under Granholm, took that and required compulsory collection of dues. I have a graduate student friend that they were also trying to enforceably unionize when she student taught, pursuant to a contract narrowly voted in years before she was born. Most of the home health care worker are caring for a member of the family. The money comes from us taxpayers and is taken for union bosses. It takes milk and bread and bandages from the family. They get NOTHING in return - NOTHING!!! Vote NO on 4!

U.R.A.Fool has it mostly right on Prop. 4. Look here. http://www.michigancapitolconfidential.com/pubs/mcc/

This proposal has nothing to do with collective bargaining. I feel it has more to do with blocking employees right to work legislation preposed but ignored by our new governer. I sure would like to ask him personnally how he feels about the bill now.
I am not anti union because I feel unions have in the past been advocates for the worker. I have payed dues all my life but feel it just gives me bitchin rights that are only ignored. I also have many friends who are unionized and love there representation, guess i've just never been as lucky.
Bottom line no one should have to pay dues to a good or bad orginization as a condition of employment and that is the case here in Michigan. If a union is doing a good job of representing its people one would think the people would be glad to pay for there services. Isn't that what good business is all about?

I am a home caregiver for an elderly women, been with her for 4 years. I have been fingerprinted for every job in this field. I am votiong NO. This will not do anything for me but take money out of my pocket for union dues. The family I work for is in a Mi choice voucher program through the AAA 1-B, where I am paid more and not in a union. This will not benefit anyone except the Union.